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More on the Stewart-Carlson dust-up

The battle of fake-news titan versus whiny, obtuse cable talk show star continues — well, from one party, anyways.

Here’s a segment of an Associated Press story, carried on,¬†quoting Tucker Carlson, the aforementioned, whiny, obtuse cable talk show star of CNN’s Crossfire:


Carlson said Stewart continued lecturing the “Crossfire” crew after the show went off the air. “I wasn’t offended as much as I was unimpressed,” he said. …

Carlson noted that many of the great comedians kept their political opinions to themselves, not for fear of offending anyone, but because it could hurt their art.

“You’re selling out,” he said. “If you are a satirist or an acute social observer, and he is, and all of a sudden you suspend disbelief on someone or suck up rather than prod or poke someone, people will look at you and say, `Even if I agree with you, I don’t like it,'” he said.

To review the original on-air spat, click here.

I’m a fairly regular watcher of the Daily Show. It tends to the lib-left side of the American political spectrum.

It seems to not be suffering for it.

Stewart’s actually given Kerry lots of shots over the summer for being an inarticulate, overly-nuanced mumbler.

But no matter what guest he’s had on — and Kerry’s had a lot of partisan Republicans — he’s been a pretty friendly guy. Actually, his tone isn’t really really different than any of the other late-night comedy show hosts when they have guests on.

Stewart isn’t doing journalism in his talk segments — but he doesn’t do it with any of his guests.

My interpretation of his point on CNN was that the right/left format of Crossfire (and shows like it) and their inability/choice not to hold politicians accountable was hurting American civil society.

With respects to CNN’s post-presidential debate section known as “Spin Alley,” Stewart said it should really be called “Deception Lane.”

Rather than talk about stuff like that, Carlson just told Stewart he was being a boring lecturer and a bad dinner guest.

In what an story called the show’s most heated moment, Carlson told Stewart, “I do think you’re more fun on you’re show. Just .” And as he called out, “Jon Stewart goes one-on-one with his fans,” Stewart replied, “And you’re just as big a dick on your show as you are on other shows.”

Carlson, looking pleased with himself, said, “Now you’re gettin’ into it.”

Heat versus light.

In an Alternet posting, Jan Frel — the site’s political editor and a former Deaniac — wrote:

Stewart may not have made any friends, but at least he pointed to one of the worst problems in our political discourse. No, not that Tucker Carlson is a dick, but that creeps like him are in control of it.

Some Stewart-related reads:

Tue, October 19 2004 » Main Page, Media